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    Adam Wolk’s “Closing Argument”

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    Adam Wolk’s “Closing Argument”

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    Our work as trial attorneys in the personal injury field is an integral part of this society. And there are two main aspects of that. One is on an individual level. I encounter people that have been hurt by somebody else’s negligence, and in some cases have lost loved ones. And have died and are in a very vulnerable situation and they’re coming to me to ask for help, to ask for justice, to ask for me to listen to them, to hear them.
     

    And that’s what I do. I listen to them. I hear them. I gather all the information and I tell their story. I know that that impacts people’s lives. I know it impacts my clients when I get a good financial result for them, but I also know it impacts my clients when we just get to speak and they get to understand that somebody’s hearing about them, hearing of their loss, hearing of their struggles, and that they’re going to have an opportunity to voice it to someone, to say what the defendants did was wrong, to say what was taken from me or taken from my loved one should not have been taken. It’s a very individual personalized job. I think that’s why I like it so much because I really do enjoy it.

    I mean, you get to help people, but I get to talk to people and learn their stories. And again, I, nobody’s coming to see me when they’re in a rough spot and they need somebody who has an expertise in an area that they’re unfamiliar with. It’s my job—that is a major part of being a plaintiff’s attorney.

    It is a fulfilling part and it’s part of what I like to do. The other part that I think gets lost a lot is that personal injury law is absolutely necessary to have a safe society. It just is. You go into a store to buy something. That store is supposed to be safe for you to walk around in. Now, I would like to think that store owners will spend money to keep their store safe, but they won’t, and they don’t.

    They keep situations safe. They keep a store safe because they know if they don’t, somebody gets hurt, they can be sued. We have laws, criminal laws that say you can’t rob or you’re going to jail. Those laws aren’t so clear when it says you need to make sure that you drive safely and don’t hurt somebody.

    If you get in an accident and you didn’t intentionally do it, there’s not a legal repercussion per se, but there needs to be a repercussion because there needs to be an incentive for people to look where they’re driving. There needs to be an incentive for store owners to keep their stores safe. There needs to be an incentive for big corporations who have dangerous ingredients like asbestos to tell the people using it that they could die from it.

    This is serious stuff. I mean, I think sometimes we get lost in your ambulance chaser, your this or that. You can walk safely in the streets because we sue those people who let their properties fall into disrepair and endanger others. You can be assured that the products being sold to you are most likely not going to hurt you because the corporations who know and only care about money know that if they put a product out there, that’s bad and going to hurt somebody.

    Even if it saves them some money than making a good product, it’s gonna hurt them in the long run because plaintiffs’ attorneys are going to come and they’re going to sue them. They’re going to ask for money. They’re going to say you were wrong because you knew this was a dangerous product.

    You thought you put it in the marketplace anyway. And now because of that, my client’s life is forever changed and you’re going to pay for it. We keep the world safe. I know it’s silly. I know it’s crazy, but we really do. I don’t think that people unfortunately go about the world saying, I want to make sure everybody is treated well and everybody’s safe and everybody’s good just because the system of justice that we have is something to be proud of.

    I think it’s something that most attorneys lose sight of. In certain countries, there’s a king. If you do something, the king is going to decide what your punishment is or what you get. In other countries, it’s just a judge. In this country, when you’re hurt because of somebody else’s negligence, what we do is very unique and it’s beautiful.

    It really is. We gather other members of your community where you live and ask them to be actuaries. Ask them to assess the injuries that you have sustained, that their peer has sustained, and ask them to come to a number that compensates them for their injuries. Ask them to look at somebody’s life, see how somebody’s negligence has impacted that life and as a community come to a number that will help that person make up for everything they’ve lost.

    Also as a community come together and say, no corporation, you were negligent in putting this into the marketplace or no defendant driver. You were negligent because you didn’t look left before you made the right turn because you were in a rush somewhere and you were really only caring about yourself when you really need to care about everybody else in this world.

    When you’re driving a 1,000-pound or 2,000-pound machine that can kill people, you don’t get to just say, I’m in a rush and I’m not going to look to the left because that’s going to change somebody else’s life. And when you do that and you hurt somebody. There’s going to be somebody to sue you. There’s going to be somebody to hold you accountable.

    There’s going to be somebody that gets other people of the community to say, no, this is wrong. This is not how things should be. And how are we going to make things right? That’s what being a trial lawyer is. That’s the value of personal injury law. It’s keeping this world safe, speaking up for those who don’t have a voice.

    And it’s making sure that people who have had their life absolutely destroyed, traumatized, or even just hurt a little, are compensated appropriately.

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    Aparna Pujar’s “Closing Argument”

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    There was a time when I was struggling to find a job because although I had passed the bar exam on my very first attempt and had a Columbia degree, without any H1B work visa, it was very difficult for me to find a job. But I had to find a job by hook or crook because of the student loan. Many people did tell me I should just pack my bags and go home, but I persisted thanks to the support of my family and my loved ones. So a few key lessons and the verdict from my experience is that you need to have courage to embrace change and be persistent even in adversity. If I could write a book on my life, I would call it Courage Across Continents or The Girl Who Tried and Made It.
     

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    Adam Shapiro’s “Closing Argument”

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    A lot of people have a very negative connotation of personal injury lawyers. But the bottom line is, you’re all a joke until you actually need one. God forbid something happens to you personally, or someone you care about. And then all of a sudden you’re thinking to yourself, “Wow, how am I going to pay my bills? My dad’s not working. He doesn’t have a job and he’s crying in pain all day in the living room and he’s crying. What am I going to do?” And all of a sudden, we become important to people. But they’re still weary when they walk in the door because of the reputation.

    The bottom line is, I’m not like that and none of us should be like that. If somebody’s hurt, act like it’s your family member. Act like it’s someone you care about because you do. These people may be in your life the rest of your life. And if you do a good job and you do care about them, they see that. They see that you care about the way you speak and the way you act. It’s sincere and they can tell if it’s bullshit or not. And when you do that, they appreciate it and they deserve it. And they will call you back years later or send you their family and friends because of these reasons.

    It’s not so hard to care about people, but in today’s day and age, it goes way beyond law. Everyone seems to be selfish and concerned about what’s best for themselves. Where few people left on this earth get happiness from helping others, we need to spread that kindness around a little bit more. It’s not easy. And people who are kind often get beat up all the time. That comes with the territory. You know, it’s just keep your nose up, keep your chin up, and never stop till you get to the goal. And then you start again. That was me. I just think caring about people matters. A lot of lawyers will short sell the case. It’s worth a hundred. They’ll take 50 to run home and they’ll have to work and they’ll tell the client they did a great job. Besides being disgusting, that catches up to you after a while. They’ll talk to their friends, they might have another case, and they’ll find out who you were as a person. I don’t ever want that happening to me. It’s not going to.

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    Cynthia Attard’s “Closing Argument”

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    One thing I could suggest to everyone on the plaintiff’s side, when you’re going to pick your jury, because that’s really where it counts. Connect. Connect with them. During my select, I literally pull a chair up, sort of standing over everybody and talking around them, and just sit down and talk to them face to face. Last thing they want is to look at an attorney and be intimidated or felt like they’re being talked down to. I’ve seen a lot of attorneys that come in there and they just feel like they have to impose this persona of being elite. Every attorney will become elite in their own way, but you don’t have to act it. It’ll happen on its own.
     

    Take your time. Take your time to learn your clients. Take your time to learn the law. There’s a lot of new attorneys out there that feel that they know everything. And you never know everything. It’s about realizing that there’s always something new that you’re going to learn every day. I wouldn’t be able to be as successful as I am today if it weren’t for the people around me. I mean just my family, I mean for the ones that work with me day in and day out. The ones we spend most of our time with.

    The last message I want to throw out there to all the attorneys, don’t settle for those low numbers. Let the defense counsel know what you’re about. You’re not going to shy down to the fight. Hold your ground, because there’s money to be made out there. And I look forward to it every single time I walk into the court.

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    Brewster Rawls’ “Closing Argument”

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    We need to have lawyers who are able to try cases. It scares me that right now the number of jury trials is dropping. And that experience is just not always available to people. And this is a business that you learn by doing. It’s like riding a bicycle, you can read about it all you like, you can be an expert on it, but you’ve got to go out there and actually do it, and people need experience. And if I were king of the world, if you will, I would try to figure out a way that we get young lawyers to have that experience. Harkening back to, to my early times in the wilds of Southwest Virginia, I learned how to handle cases, I learned how to try cases, and yeah, they were low value, piddly little cases, really.
     

    But they were mine and I learned it. And right now you’re not seeing people who get that kind of experience anywhere. And we need that because there will always be a need for lawyers who are really able to try cases. I’m very proud of the fact that I am a trial lawyer. I’m not a litigator. I don’t flog the file and then settle it at the last minute. Didn’t do it as a defense lawyer. I don’t do it now. And you’ve got to be able to go in and present a case to a court or a jury and be able to do it effectively. I think that is absolutely critical for justice in our country. And I would say that even as a defense lawyer, you’ve got to have that ability to go in there and present the case.

    Yes, if everybody’s doing everything right, and cases are being evaluated right, and being worked up right, the vast majority of them will settle. And they should settle, but there are ones that will not. And it is painful to go to court and watch some lawyer who just has no idea what he or she is doing. Not because they’re a bad individual, not because they’re dumb, they just simply haven’t had the experience. We need trial lawyers.

    Let me give you kind of an example of what happens when you don’t have an ability to go to court on something. Active duty military members could not sue for many years under the Federal Drug Claims Act simply because they were on active duty. End of discussion. They could cut the wrong leg off, kill them, didn’t matter. Too bad. What was called the Ferries Doctrine barred it. Well, about three or four years ago, Congress did fix ferries. So they didn’t really fix it, because they enabled a provision where you could bring a claim for malpractice in a military hospital, but there was no recourse of being able to go to court. So, guess how well that has worked? The Army, the Air Force, and the Navy, they’re sort of like, “Eh, so what?,” you know? “We’ll get to it when we get to it, and like, no, we’re not going to pay you anything on that. You don’t like it? Oh, too bad. Too bad.”

    And we’ve also dealt with that in what’s called the Military Claims Act, which are for overseas claims where, I mean, one of the worst cases I ever saw was where they just killed a baby in Korea. They just killed the baby. And the Army comes along and says, “Oh, we’ll pay you $125,000 for it, $125,000.” And I said, “Well, but look at this case, look at that.” It doesn’t matter, this is an MCA case. In the end of the day, it’s like, take it or leave it, you have no recourse. You’ve got to have that ability to have a recourse to court and you’ve got to have people who can go to court.

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    Brian Glass’s “Closing Argument”

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    As a human being first, but as a lawyer second, you have this one -way journey through life and you only get to experience it once. And most lawyers spend so much time chasing the next case and the next dollar and the next promotion and title, you know, without ever really thinking about where is it that I want to be at the end of all of this.
     

    And recognizing that our industry is near the top, if not at the top, in terms of anxiety, depression, suicide, alcoholism, divorce, all those things that you want to avoid. But we also make a lot of money. And there are ways in your career to pull two levers, to make more money and to spend less money, to create options for yourself, even if you’re somebody who graduated law school with $150,000, $200,000 in debt. And life is all about having those options so that when you get to pivot points, you can say, no, I don’t want to do this anymore. I don’t want to do this kind of law anymore. I don’t want to live here anymore. And creating the ability to go and, you know, kind of live the life that you want to live. I call it “Living Life by Design.”

    And so one pivotal moment for me and the reason that I joined my dad’s firm back in 2019, I was at a firm, I was a partner, I’d been a partner only for about 18 months. My name was on the door. A couple of things happened. We had somebody quit. We made a decision not to expand office space into the office next door. And then my wife, when she gave birth to our third boy, like almost died. 16 units of blood transfused. She was in the ICU for a couple of days. He was in the NICU for 10 days. And at the time my dad was 60 and I just thought like, if I don’t go and do it now, I might never get a chance to go and practice with them.

    And having the ability in your life to make those kinds of life altering decisions is really important. And knowing, at the end of the day, what it is that you want. And one of the things that I wanted before we got to the end of my career was a chance to practice with my dad. And he’s gone through a little bit of a health scare this year. And so we’re working through that and we’ve built here now a firm that’s grown 4X in the five years that we’ve been here and it’s a lot of fun.

    If you find yourself in a practice and it’s not a lot of fun, you want to have the flexibility and the capability to hit the reset button and go and do something that is, because that’s why we’re here. So I’m 40. Statistically speaking, I’m half way through my life. But by the time you’re 65, you maybe can’t do all the things that you can do at 40. And so not putting off until the end of your life, the travel and the time with family.

    Most lawyers were just not very intentional about our careers and our lives. And so I would challenge lawyers to spend a little bit of time thinking about what the hell do I actually want out of this thing? And then what would I have to sacrifice in order to get it?

     

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    Alyce Wittenstein’s “Closing Argument”

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    I remember all throughout my life, because my father was a personal injury lawyer, how they were coming to take away our contingency fees and how, the same people that are now walking around with pitchforks supporting the orange guy were always trying to get rid of contingency fees because they’re dangerous. They’re dangerous because they hold corporations in check. Without contingency fees, people that didn’t have a lot of money couldn’t afford to hire attorneys to go up against big companies. It’s interesting they had these congressional hearings about social media and I was very surprised to hear Lindsey Graham talking about the importance of contingency fees and the ability to sue social media companies when children are harmed because of the lack of safeguards. That’s the problem with a lot of the other aspects of the legal profession.
     
    I think that they should allow contingency fees for divorces, which they don’t in New York. Which means that the poor person in the couple, which is usually the woman, and the woman is usually also saddled with juggling, working, and the care of the kids, even though they say it’s joint custody, the women end up most of the time still doing most of it. And having less money, and then they have to pay an attorney, but they don’t have the money to pay an attorney. So the wealthier person ends up completely screwing them.
     
    I think that contingency fees should be expanded so that more people have access to the law. One of the things I’d like to do, it’s on my bucket list, is to try to get some grants to handle these types of cases so that they can be prosecuted without charging people money they don’t have.
     

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    Hunter Shkolnik’s “Closing Argument”

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    What is, I think, really important to understand is, you know, I got into being a lawyer kind of by accident. But over the years, I realized that the tools we were given, the tools I was given, the opportunities that it opened up, allowed me to do a lot of good. I’m very lucky. I have a wonderful family, grown daughters. One of them is a lawyer that works with me now. And to be able to work alongside her is something I never, ever imagined. But to be able to instill in her, as well as every other young lawyer that has worked with us or come across my path, I try to make it an opportunity to help them and help them grow.
     

    I think the opportunities for young lawyers today are not the same opportunities we had, and it’s a shame. It’s a skill that you don’t get taught. It’s a skill you have to learn. So I get to bring young lawyers with me, and I think I have a great opportunity to show the younger lawyers, the younger people, you know, how to do this, how to do it right, how to do it professionally, ethically. And it may sound corny, but there are people that depend on us. Some of my worst experiences in this space are always the cases I’ve lost. And any lawyer who says they don’t lose cases, in essence, hasn’t tried cases. And when I see families that need anything and everything I can get to survive, and for whatever reason, a jury disagrees or we lose the case, that’s devastating. And I always kind of second guess myself, “What did I do wrong?” And I try to bring those types of, you know, experiences to other lawyers, younger lawyers we’re working with, so that they understand you’re not always going to be perfect. You got to gamble. I don’t go to Vegas and put money on tables. I can walk through a casino and never lose a penny. But I go into courtrooms and I let millions of dollars, in these days billions of dollars, ride. And I just say we’re gonna let it ride today. And we’re doing that because big companies should be required to take care of the mistakes they’ve made, the messes they’ve made, and the people we represent should get compensated. And I’d like to know I’m helping the next generation of those lawyers doing what we’re doing.

    And they’re going to do what I did in multiples.

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